So you want to stop the Nazis?
> She is the proud recipient of an orange check mark, signifying that she has hundreds of paid subscribers on Substack
I would be surprised if there aren't political machines in place making sure the important people get a lot of subscribers. It would not be hard to create a bot farm from an NGO that gave paid subscriptions to people with the right opinions. On a positive note, less and less credence is given to popularity signifiers, as most people now understand the game.
Given she's an MSNBC columnist, you can be sure nothing she ever says will be remotely interesting.
Well, first of all, thank you for mentioning me. I know it sounds a bit over-stated but for a writer like you to consider me a peer really is a huge compliment and deeply appreciated.
Secondly, calls to action to scrub this platform of any and all "wrong-think" content are intolerably heinous. I've said it before about Samantha Bee's (hopefully now ended) dalliance with this site - these people have the largest jungle gyms on the internet to play on, and the fact that they must come here and they must root out the native user-base and they must turn our little corner into another safe and sterile mouthpiece to regurgitate the same opinions back and forth at one another... it really brings my piss to a boil. I've seen it so many times in so many places, even hobbies. It's the same thing that happened to video games, Magic the Gathering, tabletop roleplaying, comic books, and just about every other "nerdy" or "geeky" hobby or interest. The "mainstream" guys move in to the space, say, "Oh, hey, cool thing you got going on here, guys. I know you guys have been doing your own thing for a while, but you really need to consider how me and my friends feel about it, so you need to stop doing [insert everything that makes the space unique and interesting here] so that it better suits me. Okay?" and when they get pushback, they quite literally bully everyone out to make space for their equally bland, boring, and milquetoast friends. It's as exhausting to watch repeat as the actors repeating it are cruel and petty.
Like Samantha Bee, though, I have no doubt in my mind that her orange check-mark is one that was bought by her handlers to boost her visibility. I just refuse to believe otherwise, and, as the fevered minds that postulated the Dead Internet "Conspiracy Theory" are continually vindicated as more and more revelations come out about the truly staggering amount of bots and hollow accounts pervade the internet, there's no reason to think Substack as a platform is exempt from nefarious means of astroturfing.
I've come to really enjoy this place and the company of users like you and everyone you mentioned. It's the kind of frontier spirit that made the internet interesting to begin with, and the spirit that's becoming near impossible to find. I'm not sure how we can fortify this place against malicious actors like this. It's also, like, one of the last places with even a semblance of long-form content in a world that seems increasingly moving to short, bite-sized, mind-melting clips that shred one's attention span, and I'm sick to fucking death of it. I don't know much about the founders and owners of Substack. I've heard their on the level, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, but even if they are, the site is only one hostile take-over or Wordpress/Yahoo/X purchase away from being turned into another glorified corpo ad platform.
You're right, the collapse of Jezebel will mean they flood in. And then have a collective breakdown when they realize no one wants to read them here, either.
Jezebel shut down? I didn't even know she was sick.
Skimming through the nag's articles, it's exactly the kind of midwit brain-rot that I ached to escape until I found Substack. The orange tick signifying "thousands of paid subscribers" is an interesting note. Whilst I can see how someone like Hersh has the purple "tens of thousands" signifier, like you, I struggle to align this shrill's content (though there are always droll minds to consume droll tripe), and more importantly the lack of traction, with her supposed legion of paying eyes. There's very likely some artificial boosting at play, hopefully from without rather than within Substack itself.
In terms of the Attack on Substack, it was only a matter of time, and I predict that as the Substack-lockdown narrative gains traction there may be some anti-deplatforming battles to win ahead. Luckily, Substack makes it's money through subscription fees, rather than advertising. I'd still highly recommend multi-platforming any content even if just for posterity.
For any readers, I would recommend subscribing to your favourite writers if you haven't already. If Substack sees that the subscribers (if authentic) of Marisa Kabas and her ilk are providing significantly more financial value to the platform than the "Nazis", they may be swayed to restrict and deplatform the latter to appease the lunatics. Nothin' personal, just business.
Insufferable bint. These women need a hobby.
“ Her prose is what you would get if a fair-trade pumpkin-spice latte could type.” <- This made me laugh. Thank you. Women like pumpkin-spice-latte girl are so very tedious and, though I’m quite fit and energetic (even overly bouncy at times, according to my husband), they absolutely tire me out. The worst part is that most of them truly believe the drivel they tap out on their keyboards and via their chattering at the company cocktail hour.
Yours is one of my favorite Substacks, my friend. I am grateful to have found such a place -- a refuge -- but after my first few weeks here, I knew the “identity-intersectional-virtue signaling class” would move against it before long. Hopefully, they won’t succeed.
At this point I think most of the opposition to people on Substack is orchestrated.
Seriously, who goes on social media, and seeks out [non famous] people to deride? Nobody does that, because that's just not what people do. If they're paid, they do it. Otherwise, people will stick to whatever social circles they usually haunt. That's just human nature.
The leftists *Substack has brought to Substack* always seem to have a huge following right off the bat. Which makes little sense, because they are still on the platforms they came from -- where people might actually agree with them and want to read their opinions.
Similarly, their large and unlikely legitimate following, are seeing all of these strange restacks of random bigoted nonsense, from some account that nobody has heard of. As they cry, "See look! Here be racists… Arghh!" It's just so obviously orchestrated.
In other words, if Substack is full of racists and Nazis, where are all the racist Nazis with a massive subscriber base? There's just not.
As a result, they are left trying re-frame what it means to be a racist or a Nazi.
It's not working, because the people with large subscriber bases are read by people who are not persuaded by nonsense, nor is anyone who actually reads what they write.
They're to go after Substack like they did Rush Limbaugh. Whine and cry that he's terrible, he's the worst thing ever, so on and so fourth. But what did it result in? It resulted in many leftist people actually listening to Limbaugh’s show, and realizing that they have been lied to the entire time! Their efforts resulted in more Rush fans in the end.
So, I'm not worried about this in the long run. I'm more worried about Substack using algorithms to push down content. Maybe having a few “issues” with their mass emailing service here and there. Things that are hard to "prove" are being done. Maybe changing people’s feeds. We know that’s been happening because I keep seeing stuff from leftist goons that I would never subscribe to.
That’s how I see this ending up.
Write on, librarian!
I was just thinking this morning that the Jezebel spirit (the biblical queen, not the magazine) is the new spiritual direction that we are up against. The Karens are retiring and it is the fierce Jezebelisch that are taking their places.
That is awesome you are getting that kind of support. You deserve it.
Part of the reason why these people freak out about supposed "nazis" is that they are utterly helpless when they have to actually think through and articulate their positions. They are so used to having everything (soft-)censored that challenges their hard-wired assumptions that they can't do much other than shrieking when faced with it. But this won't do anymore. If they actually cared about their causes, they would realize this.
"People like this are simply an irritating menace, and their longing for purpose, authority, and the moral formation of obedient inferiors would better be served through raising children, or failing that, some sort of small animal."
Bite your tongue! No child or animal deserves that fate!
The old adage live and let live seems to have been replaced with you can only live if you agree 100% with my dogma. What kind of outsized ego must you possess if you think your code should be jammed down the throats of all. Bullying, cancelling others who don’t conform seems to be a pretty Nazi thing.
I'm not surprised to see this happening here. These people are status-seekers, and Substack has a reputation for hosting interesting thinkers and writers (a reputation they feel entitled to). Now that Twitter has been captured and their own outlets are haemorrhaging views and donors, they're looking for the next place to infiltrate and turn into the equivalent of a Guardian journalist's pillow fort.
Freedom of thought and freedom of expression must be preserved.
Tell them (Kabas ancd her like) that Hitler was transgender....that should confuse them!