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Rikard's avatar

An exciting read and refreshing too - here in Sweden among those few academic-feminists who still recognise her name, she is both venerated and shunned at the same time, by the same persons.

They want her ideas to be true, but they cannot discount the flaws in her method (as you rightly point out, freely associating from generic symbols and then drawing conclusions about how a society was organised for thousands of years).

It must be a real problem for present-day archeologists, that 1) they now have to deal with genetics where Y-chromosome haplogroups can be used for tracing and 2) political correctness demanding all finds and conclusions be in line with today's narrative (and of course pro-/retroactively with tomorrow's and yesterday's at the sametime), when material evidence which is what counts the most refuses to comply with said narrative.

The earliest settlements in what is now Sweden date back to around 12 000 BC, give or take a century or so. "Iskantsjägare", meaning "Ice-edge hunters" who made semi-permanent settlements and followed the receding ice. Outside Simrishamn in Scania, the southernmost province, a permanent fishing settlement was uncovered a few years ago, it's founding dating back to around between 9 000 BC - 7 000 BC, with strong indicators that it traded with other permanent settlements inland and along the coast. In Härjedalen (middle Sweden) rock paintings date back to 5 000 BC.

I wonder if Gimbutas took into account, that other - perhaps contradictory - findings would be made after her passing? Science is after all, in any field, never The Truth; it is only ever what we think we know right now. If a decisive find showing that "Out of Africa" is erroneous as it stands right now was to be discovered, then what? The afrementioned genetics (in genetical archeology) must be causing terror among the established academics and their current hegemocial truths.

A final though: it has become increasingly difficult using public sources and search engines to find anything about real archeology and real history, at least in my nation. I cannot help but feel that history is being adapted so as to serve purpose for something still in the future, and while I may not know much history as such, I do know what delegitimising a people's history and historical presence, culture and language is the set-up for.

Ihave to wonder if this is a swedish situation, or EU-wide or even global.

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Car Trucks's avatar

Marija Gimbutas healed me from the feminist mind-virus. ~15 years ago my radfem community - philosophical precursors to today's terfs - discovered her work and much rejoicing was made of it: a brilliant scholar validating the historical feminist utopia we all knew in our bones had existed. (Obvious caveat that none of us knew a thing about linguistics or archaeology or ancient history, but we had intuition, so.)

However, you take this idea to its logical limits and feminism collapses before you like a house of cards. It proves that women do not form a class that transcends race or economic status or motherhood status or whatever else. And if women don't form a class, then there's no shared oppression and there's no solidarity. At best feminism is then merely women teaching each other how to avoid getting raped, and the answer there is 99% "find a good man who will protect you from other men" and 1% "form a women-only community (don't ask who enforces those borders)."

It's all so obvious now that I'm on this side of it.

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