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European is a pretty nebulous concept. There is a place called Europe where people broadly sharing genetic patterns live. It’s a useful construct for understanding things in some contexts, not so much in others. No Roman would have thought of the Germans, for example, as anything like them in terms of race, culture, etc. Caesar felt free to conduct a campaign of genocide against the Gauls because he viewed them much like colonial powers viewed the Indians. “European” is an identity that emerged over centuries and is impossibly to disaggregate from “Christendom.”

There is not “a continuous tradition” of European paganism. Continuous implies ongoing. It’s long gone and has been long gone since the Middle Age at the latest. At best, one could argue that it could be resurrected, but here you arrive at the point I was making. Will Isis worship be a part of your European pagan revival? How about Cybele, the Neolithic Magna Mater? Do we edit all the material from the Enuma Elish from the Theogony? This isn’t a theoretical consideration; neopagans have to argue these exact points because of their similar misconceived essentialism. There is exactly one European religion with a continuous tradition still practiced there, and it’s not Odinism. If you say, “but Christianity came from Asia,” well, so did the Aryans.

To your second point, no one in Roman antiquity would have attached any significance to the fact that, of the three continents they knew of, the Germanic tribes shared Europe with them. They were as hostile and predatory as any boat people today, and just as alien. Fortunately, Christian missionaries were able to smooth away the rough edges and build upon their positive traits, such that Europe was reconstructed with those barbarians playing a major role. The Roman Empire was revived in the West, eventually, under Christian rulers, controlling far more of Europe, and the world, than the old pagan Empire did.

Regarding your third point, yes, the Church could certainly do more. Clement of Alexandria thought the Church was neglecting everything education; no one would listen to him, so he started his own school as part of a program of catechesis. Francis of Assisi thought the Church was neglecting the poor, so he went out and lived among them, and started an order dedicated to that purpose. The mistake so many young men make is to think of the Church as a service provider like Door Dash and lament that it’s neglecting an untapped market. The Church isn’t the buildings and the priests, it’s the whole body of believers. If no one in the Church is doing what you think it ought to be doing, that may, perhaps, be a sign that you are the one meant to do it.

People keep making the same basic errors in interpretation because of the Dunning Kruger effect. They’re good at statistics or computer science but, knowing nothing about the Bible, imagine it must be an order of magnitude simpler. Then when their superficial and reductive readings are challenged, they blame the text for being obscure. It isn’t. It was written in a particular time and place, meaning that some parts will be more challenging to interpret, but was meant for all times and people. The key to unraveling that paradox is to realize that scripture can only really be understood within a living holy tradition. Scripture in that sense is as intellectually demanding as the mind inquiring into it can bear, and its exegesis is in no way intended for a mass audience. Neoliberalism is largely based on the notion that the exact sciences can serve as an organizing basis for society. Missionaries are men with a special charisma for communicating the truths of the faith in terms comprehensible to a particular people. The based young right are wide open for one so gifted.

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So many of these arguments posed by the anti-Christian camp remind me of a class I took in college on Political Theory in Antiquity, which ended up being one of the most formative classes I ever took. Not just because it was the place I was introduced to the great works of philosophy by Plato, Aristotle, St. Augustine (which was his favorite), Thomas Aquinas, so on and so forth, but the Professor himself was remarkable. He was from Quebec and a lapsed Catholic who told me, during a private discussion, "The saddest thing on earth is a man who lost his faith and desperately wants to find it again." Obviously, he was fighting his own demons, but for being a self-professed lapsed Catholic and agnostic, he was always defending Christianity on basic, logical arguments that helped spark a renewed interest in religion myself. Every time anyone has a question about Christianity, he had an answer that was simply irrefutable because he was so well read on the topic.

I remember distinctly this one kid tried to "epically own" him on the question of the Trinity, and he just sat down, put his hands in his head, and said something to the effect of, "There are more books written on that topic than you could ever read in a life time. Every question you have has been answered by men smarter than me. If you want to argue about this, please read some of them, and then we can have this discussion." So much of Christianity's most vociferous critics fail to grasp even the basic concepts of it, so much so that debate with them is often pointless because they don't know what they don't know. Pretty much any question they might have has already been discussed extensively since the foundation of the religion and written about by men much more intelligent than any of us. And I'm not claiming to be a great Christian scholar or theologian, but his words always struck me as profound. You can't really argue against Christianity if you only have a surface level understanding of it, no more than you can argue or debate against anything without at least a working knowledge of it.

I hope that man found the peace he seemed to be longing for.

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